Do you find that in your relationships you tend to be the giver and attract takers?
Are you stuck in a pattern of over-functioning or sacrificing for your
partner, while secretly harboring resentment and bitterness because deep down
you doubt they’d do the same for you?
If you’re nodding your head, then this episode is for you. I’m going to be
talking about codependents, narcissists, and the bad boundaries that tend to
exist between them.
It really can be the perfect sh*t storm of dysfunctional behaviors, but
raising your awareness around this toxic pairing can help you break the cycle
and choose differently.
What are codependent behaviors? Codependency is behavior that includes
disordered boundaries, where you are overly invested in the feeling states,
the decisions, the outcomes, and the circumstances of the people in your life
to the detriment of your internal peace and wellbeing.
If you are unsure whether or not you are a codependent here are some common
ways it can show up in real life:
- You feel responsible for fixing other people’s problems.
- When things happen to others, it feels like it’s happening to you.
- You might feel used or unappreciated for all you do.
- You offer advice even when it is unasked for, and if others don’t take
it, you can get frustrated or angry. - You can have a tendency to take things personally.
- You take your value from what you can do for others, almost like you have
to “earn your keep” for them to want to be in a relationship with
you. - You might feel unlovable, unworthy, or fundamentally broken in some
way.
Codependency is really an overt or covert bid for control. We don’t want our
friend or loved one to make a mistake. The thing is, even if your heart is in
the right place if you are giving, fixing, and functioning from a place of
fear instead of love, your boundaries are disordered.
Now let’s talk about narcissism. Narcissistic Personality Disorder (NPD) is
“a mental disorder in which people have an inflated sense of their own
importance, a deep need for admiration, and a lack of empathy for others”
according to The Mayo Clinic.¹
There are different levels of narcissism, and while all of it is unhealthy,
some are more toxic than others.
Someone with narcissistic personality traits and behaviors:
- Will manipulate, guilt-trip, blame, shame, and exploit your emotions to
take advantage of you and achieve their own ends. - They like to stir the pot. They will provoke, instigate, etc.
- Has a grandiose sense of self-importance and thinks they are superior to
you. - Exaggerates their achievements and talents and feels entitled to the best
of everything. - Can be super charming, persuasive, and compelling.
- They care a lot about what other people think.
- Are major boundary violators. Think often they are above the laws and
rules. - Are bad listeners and interrupters. Always ready to put the focus back
onto themselves. - Is super ego-driven, but also thin-skinned and will flip out at the
slightest criticism or perceived slight. - Breaks promises and will manipulate the facts to get you to doubt
yourself. - Is unwilling or unable to recognize or identify with the feelings or
needs of others (lack of empathy).
If you are in a relationship with a narcissist, everything is really about
them and what suits them. They likely see you as an extension of themselves
and it’s all about what they want. Being with a narcissist can be extremely
isolating and painful.
Why is there an undeniable attraction between codependents and narcs? To put
it simply, a codependent is someone who is perennially giving and a narcissist
is someone who is perennially taking. In a way, these two dysfunctional
personality types are the perfect dance partners. A narcissist is self-focused
and compelled to control, while the codependent is outwardly focused and
compelled to fix.
Especially early on in the courtship, a codependent might be smitten with a
narcissist, who usually comes in full of charm, wit, and compliments. In the
beginning, it might feel beyond amazing. Those with narcissistic personality
traits can be master manipulators and will use tactics like love bombing to
get you secured in their web.
If it feels too good to be true, beware. They might tell you things like how
incredible you are, how you’re soulmates and twin flames, how no one
understands them as you do. They might shower you with gifts or whisk you away
to an incredible vacation or some other grand romantic gesture.
But when it comes to a relationship with a narcissist, there will inevitably
be a point when there is a painful turn. The adoring behavior slowly but
surely starts to be replaced with disdain and criticism. It might be provoked
by you trying to set a boundary or a limit, or you telling them what your
preference is about something. It might be provoked by nothing at all.
When you’re codependent, you are particularly vulnerable to a narc
personality type, because over-giving is ingrained within you. Most
codependents live to anticipate the other person’s needs, wants, and desires
and are ready to be a part of someone else’s solution. But you can only go so
long walking on eggshells and getting your worth from over-giving. There comes
a point where you want to be seen, heard, and understood, and that is very
unlikely to happen in a relationship with a narcissist.
These relationships can be extremely hard to break free from. Once you have
“fallen from grace,” in the estimation of the narc, you might work overtime to
get back in good standing. Going from the intensity of love-bombing to being
devalued on a regular basis can be a shock. As a codependent, you’re likely
not great at confrontation and might try to avoid their displeasure and
disapproval at all costs.
The narcissist and the codependent both become mesmerized with this toxic
cycle, because what’s really happening is they are both playing out unresolved
injuries from childhood inside the relationship. Bad boundaries are basically
the name of the game.
As the codependent, it is an unspoken agreement that you have no right to
have boundaries in a relationship with a narcissist, and yet…if you want the
pain to stop, it is your job to establish them.
How can a codependent avoid the trap of the narcissist?
Assert yourself early and often.
Have conversations about what you like, what you want, and how you feel.
Question them on things and tell them when you disagree. You can do this in a
neutral, non-confrontational way.
Expressing yourself and your preferences is one way you can see how the other
person is going to react. Trust me, someone who is simply clueless or
self-centered is not going to react the way a narcissistic person will react.
A narc will try to make you wrong, shut you down, and make you regret
asserting yourself.
If you can establish boundaries early and often, you will not fall victim to
this kind of manipulation. You’ll be able to spot the red flags for what they
are.
The best defense against a narcissistic abuser is a good offense–and that
means having a proactive boundary plan and learning how to communicate
effectively.
If you know you’re codependent and if you’ve had an experience like this
before, bring this awareness into your next relationships. What did you learn
about yourself? What did you learn from your past experience?
Set those boundaries early and often. You can do it gently and with kindness.
This will reveal who they really
are. Even if they are good at playing the game in the beginning, be consistent
because there will be a point where they will not be able to contain their
reaction to “the nerve you have” establishing a boundary with them.
The bottom line is – a relationship with a narcissist and a codependent will
usually end in a crap-ton of pain, and I don’t want that for you. You do not
deserve it.
One more quick PSA:
I rarely use the word “always” but I’m going to do it here.
Always assert your boundaries early and often in every relationship.
Always.
Whether the other person is a narcissist or not, this is how you set yourself
and the relationship up for success. Hold others to their word. Share your
preferences, desires, and deal-breakers. Because you know what happens if you
don’t? You’re setting yourself up for more of the same of what you just
experienced.
You deserve better, but you have to be the one to set the bar!
If you are interested in learning more about boundaries and how to become a
boundary boss, my Boundary Bootcamp Course is open for enrollment!
It is an eight-week course personally led by yours truly, and in it, I will
teach you all the things that you need to know about setting boundaries with
all the people in your life, including narcissists. I would love to see you on the inside.
Here’s where you can get all the details about Boundary Bootcamp and
enroll!
In the meantime, I hope this episode added value to your life. If you liked
it, please share it on your social media platforms and drop me a comment! I
love to hear what you think, how you feel, and what your experiences
are.
Have an amazing week raising the bar in your life and as always, take care of
you.


Dear Terri,
This totally hit the nail on the head for me. I was in this relationship for 20 years and he left me since I would no longer play along, totally blindsided me but I am so much better now, life is good rediscovering myself and much happier, he really did me a favor but all you have said is so spot on, I really appreciate your podcasts, Thank you
Becky
Thank you for sharing and for being here, Becky ❤️