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“Codependency is an addiction, which explains why codependents want to escape but they can’t– Should they escape, they are overwhelmed and subsumed by codependency’s number one symptom, which is pathological loneliness.” – Ross Rosenberg


I am so happy to welcome back a frequent guest of the show, Ross Rosenberg. Ross is an expert on narcissism and codependency, and he’s here to tell us about his amazing new book, Codependency Revolution: Fixing What Was Already Broken, which also helps raise awareness around what codependency actually is, why codependents tend to end up with narcissists, and what you can do about it.

One brilliant takeaway: codependency is an addiction.

I always enjoy talking with Ross because he speaks from personal and professional experience, and he brings new observations and thoughts from the field into the fold.

What he offers is hope, something many of those in these toxic relationships need, so I hope you enjoy what Ross shares with us as much as I did.


  • 2:50 Why now is the time for Ross’s brand new book
  • 10:15 Ross’s operational definition for codependency
  • 12:00 How Ross’s own experience with codependency influenced how he thinks about it
  • 26:00 What people can do if they are in a codependent relationship right now

Connect with Ross Rosenberg

Ross Rosenberg, M.Ed., LCPC, CADC, is a global thought leader and renowned expert in codependency, trauma treatment, pathological narcissism, and addictions. He is an expert psychotherapist, educator, best-selling author, and expert witness whose pioneering contributions to the mental health field are responsible for sweeping theoretical and practical updates. 

Ross’s newest book, Codependency Revolution: Fixing What Was Already Broken:


Youtube: @RossRosenberg


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