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“You really can change a lot of things in your life by being vocal, by setting some very clear expectations, and by asking other people to help you.” – Nedra Tawwab


I am thrilled to have Nedra Tawwab, best-selling author of Set Boundaries, Find Peace, on the show to chat about her new book, Drama Free: A Guide to Managing Unhealthy Family Relationships. Because let’s be honest, most of us come from dysfunctional families in one way or another.

Nedra and I start by talking about boundaries and then move into what a dysfunctional family is or could look like, the types of dysfunction Nedra sees most often, what you can do about family dysfunction, codependency in family, and the pressures we face when we are the first to break a dysfunctional cycle within a family.

I hope you enjoy it as much as I did!


  • 2:40 Nedra’s journey to becoming a therapist
  • 6:00 Why did Nedra choose to write about boundaries first?
  • 8:15 Not accepting help
  • 14:30 Expressing your needs clearly
  • 16:45 Why we feel like our needs are a burden
  • 18:05 Recognizing family dysfunction
  • 20:55 What can do you about family dysfunction?
  • 26:10 Codependency and enmeshment
  • 28:50 Pressure when you have more resources than your family
  • 34:25 How to create healthy family dynamics?
  • 39:00 Challenges cycle breakers face
  • 42:25 Nedra’s most challenging boundary struggle
  • 44:45 The importance of rest

Connect with Nedra Tawwab:

Nedra Glover Tawwab, MSW, LCSW, is a New York Times best-selling author, licensed therapist, and sought-after relationship expert. She has practiced relationship therapy for 15 years and is the founder and owner of the group therapy practice, Kaleidoscope Counseling. Every day she helps people create healthy relationships by teaching them how to implement boundaries. Her philosophy is that a lack of boundaries and assertiveness underlie most relationship issues, and her gift is helping people create healthy relationships with themselves and others. 

Nedra earned her undergraduate and graduate degrees from Wayne State University in Detroit, MI. She has additional certifications in working with families and couples and in perinatal mood and anxiety disorders, plus advanced training for counseling adults who’ve experienced childhood emotional neglect. 

Nedra has appeared as an expert on Red Table Talk, The Breakfast Club, Good Morning America, and CBS Morning Show to name a few. Her work has been highlighted in The New York Times, The Guardian, and Vice and has appeared on numerous podcasts, including Good Life Project, Sofia with an F, and Therapy For Black Girls. She runs a popular Instagram account where she shares practices, tools, and reflections for mental health and hosts weekly Q&As.



Here are some ways we can connect and grow together:

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